Posts by Joe Grundy

this is the report in the online edition of the cyprus mail announcing the dc (http://www.cyprus-mail.com/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovah-s-convention/20120703):.

"the district convention of jehovahs witnesses will be held this friday at the spyros kyprianou athletic centre in limassol.

the two-day convention titled safeguard your heart!

Joe Grundy

This is the report in the online edition of the Cyprus Mail announcing the DC (http://www.cyprus-mail.com/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovah-s-convention/20120703):

"THE DISTRICT Convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses will be held this Friday at the Spyros Kyprianou Athletic Centre in Limassol. The two-day convention titled “Safeguard Your Heart!” will be held over three days, ending on Sunday July 8.

According to a press release, the convention will highlight biblical references to the heart, encouraging self-scrutiny and reflection, which will amount to a three-day examination of what the convention calls “one’s own figurative heart”.

The convention programme will be presented in Greek, English and Russian and will be translated in Arabic, Polish, Romanian, Bulgarian, Singhalese and sign language for deaf people.

An estimated 4,000 people will attend the convention. Programme sessions start at 9.20am all three days and finish at 4.55pm on Friday and Saturday and 3.40pm on Sunday. Admission is free, and no collections will be taken."

This sentence made me laugh: "The two-day convention titled “Safeguard Your Heart!” will be held over three days ..."

I've never been a JW or been to a DC but reading reports here on JWN suggest that they are mind-numbingly boring. Well, now it's official - it's a two day event cunningly squeezed into three days. You weren't hallucinating, time really does pass slower at DCs.

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Letter from elders to WT about Jonathan Kendrick and the WT response

by wolfman85 in

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i don't know if these letters were posted here before , so i'm sorry if is something that all of you have seen already..

Joe Grundy

Lack of a letterhead is no problem if the WT letter is a copy from their files.

It's common office practice if you are keeping a hard copy of a letter to print two copies - one on letterhead paper to send and one on plain paper (cheaper) for the file.

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NEWS-JW Wife Stabbed in Kingdom Hall

by Refriedtruth in

fox carolina 21deputies: wife stabbed by husband at church.

whns greenville-9 minutes agogreenville county deputies said they were called to kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses at 1400 old spartanburg rd.

about 2:15 p.m. where they found ...http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/18848997/deputies-wife-stabbed-by-husband-at-church.

Joe Grundy

This is dreadful, horrible. My thoughts are with this poor lady.

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

Joe Grundy

Just spoke to Candace's law firm.

The charming young lady confirmed that the appeal court will review only the material that was submitted at trial and thus there is no opportunity for re-interrogating witnesses, etc., so no, I can't be of much help. But I've left my contact details and am available if required.

Just to clarify, no I never was a dub. I was raised in the (Open) Plymouth Brethren but have been an atheist for many years.

And to repeat my offer - I am now retired but have a lot of experience in child abuse cases. I am able to be self-funding and offer any help I can to those who need it.

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

Joe Grundy

MB: Noted.

Does anyone have a direct link to Candace' attorney, please?

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

Joe Grundy

I'm not suggesting that Candace's lawyer was in any way deficient.

Just offering a hand, is all.

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

Joe Grundy

sir82: The secret, the 'knack' in doing this is to 'play dumb' - get them to explain it to you as if you undertand nothing. Except you do (from research) and THEN you ask the 'beam me up scottie' questions.

Worked for me. Oh, and KISS. Juries love that.

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

Joe Grundy

No doubt, WTBTS NY will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.

I wish I was in a position to fund Candace through the appeal, but I'm not, nor I am cognisant with California law or the general fedaral law in US.

But I was a police officer in the UK for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a Fraud Squad, member of the National Working Group on Fraud, Europol, etc. I did spend some time in the US working with FBI on a joint case.

My point is this. I've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in Bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers. (It's been referenced here, but I can't link to it).

I understand that the dep was taken by Candace's lawyer, or someone on the team, but it failed to produce the evidence properly because it didn't ask the questions in enough depth (common failing).

For example:

Is there a procedure whereby congregations report disciplinary committees to WTBTS?

Are those reports filed?

How are they filed?

Is the subject matter of the discipline noted?

etc., etc.

It would not be hard to get to the point that reports of child abuse COULD be identified.

The point of this post is that even though WTBTS have the financial resources (they think) a goood investigator going through their published papers and their personnel could blow the whole thing apart.

And here is a genuine offer (I don't make less than genuine ones): I'd be happy to travel to CA and assist Candace's team (my expense) if it would help.